Posts tagged: cash gifting

Mar 07 2010

Is Infinity Downline a Scam ? A Review

Infinity downline is an interesting addition to my reviews as it’s compensation plan is different from what I have seen so far.  In fact I actually think it’s quite good.  Normally I look at how many people one must recruit in order to break even and with this “reverse 2 up” system you break even after your first recruit.

Of course it’s impossible to get any better than this.  I have seen many some forced matrices that allow you to break even with 2 and up until then that’s as low as I thought it would ever get, but this reverse 2 up system has made it possible to break even with 1.

Basically you pay $25 per month to be a member of Infinity downline.  I won’t bother talking about the “products” as nobody really cares.  Just some e-book and how-to videos etc (essentially information).  They just provide that in order to stay legal.

Once you recruit someone their $25/month goes directly to you.  So with just 1 recruit you are breaking even.  Your 2nd and 4th recruits get passed up to your sponsor so you aren’t actually in profit until you have 3 recruits.  Don’t let that put you off, as this passing up of recruits is necessary in order to have the leverage effect that everyone wants with MLM.

Every recruit from your 5th onwards will be yours to keep forever.

So the passing up process also happens in your benefit.  Your 1st, 3rd and 5th onward recrutis will pass up to your THEIR 2nd and 4th recruits.  Those 2 recruits will also in turn do the same thing.  So essentially everyone only needs to get 2 recruits to create a snowball effect.

The only drawback to this system, perhaps, is their is no forced matrix concept.  Which means there is no chance of “spillover” from your upline.  Of course your upline will be motivated to help you get your first 2 recruits as they don’t make any money until you have 2 so there is that possibility.  Therefore the lack of spillover may not be such a problem.

The main thing I don’t like about infinitydownline.com is that it’s a monthly fee program.  I haven’t had any good experiences with monthly payment schemes.  In all my experiments, I found that monthly payment programs don’t last long term which is the main thing preventing me from trying a monthly program again.  However, if I were to try another one I think I would try one that uses this “reverse 2 up” system, as I like being able to break even after only 1 recruit.  That should certainly help retention rates (the biggest problem with these online schemes).

Another thing that makes me suspicious is the fact that the owners of Infinity Downline don’t appear to be making any commissions off the members efforts.  Everyone passes their 2 referrals up to their sponsor but that’s as far as it goes.  The only money the admins are making would be from their own personal recruiting efforts.  That is very puzzling to me.

Perhaps there is a monthly admin fee that isn’t mentioned on the site anywhere.  But if there isn’t and it’s just a straight $25 payment then this is very strange, as no one makes a business where only the sales force make money and the company itself makes nothing from the efforts of the sales force.

All in all this scheme isn’t so bad from a strictly mathematical/compensation point of view.  Like all schemes there isn’t really any product that anyone wants.  This is just a legal way to get people to give each other “cash gifts”.  If some company offered the reverse 2 up system with a product that people actually need and use I would be all over that.   However, that is highly unlikely to ever happen.

Feel free to post your Infinity Downline experiences below, good or bad.  No affiliate links please.

Jan 24 2010

Is Forced Cash Gifts a Scam ? A Review

I recently received an email from “Dave Taylor” about this new program.  Dave Taylor is the guy behind Team Success builder, but he also promotes a lot of other programs.  Therefore he is pretty much like most other online marketers in that he doesn’t seem to focus on one program and make it work but jumps from program to program making money each time I am sure as he emails the latest thing to his huge list of contacts and some people join in hopes that this will be “The one” that makes them rich.

The fact is the only people who make real money at this are the ones with the huge lists of contacts of people who are hungry to make money (and gullable).

The difference with this Forced Cash Gifting program is it doesn’t appear that the owners (whoever they are) make any administration fees.  The money you put into the program is all used to pay the members.  However, I am sure that the owners or administrators have a position at the top of the matrix so they DO make money from it.

The intial fee to join is $10, but that isn’t the only fee of course.  As you progress in the program you need to keep feeding money into it, however it appears the subsequent fees don’t come out of your pocket but are deducted from your commissions.  Therefore your only out of pocket expense (it would appear) is $10.

There are some great claims made by the website like for example “No Sponsoring Required”.  Well no programs “require” you to sponsor others.  However, if you don’t, it’s highly unlikely you will ever make any money.  Forcedcashgifts is a forced matrix, therefore it is POSSIBLE to make money from spillover but remember spillover is usually a trickle.

Another claim they make is “Our system is not a “Get-rich-quick scheme”. We truly offer a ‘Realistic Plan’ to earn about $1 Million in One Year!”

I have to disagree here.  This claim is by no means “realistic”.   They would be fortunate if even ONE person were to make $1 Million in one year (likely the creator of the program who is at the top) nevermind everyone.  This “realistic” claim is nothing but and that alone is enough for me to stay away.

This is as close as you can get to MLM or Pyramid scheme.  There is absolutely no product whatsoever, it is purely a money sharing/distribution system.  I’m pretty sure it’s fully legal as you are giving “gifts” to people in the program and there is no law against giving gifts to people.  That’s how they stay legal.  A pretty thin line if you ask me.

If you are in to Cash Gifting programs then I guess this one is pretty good as it incorporates a forced matrix.  So at least you have some chance of making some money without sponsoring others.

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