Is Travel Venture Express TVI International a Scam ? A Review
TVI International claims to be some sort of travel company. Upon visiting the website the first thing I didn’t like about it was how the “product” is not clear cut. I don’t know what they are selling, or what I will be selling, when I visit the website. Further they require you to give your name and email address before they offer up any more specific information – FIRST WARNING SIGN.
After further research I discovered that it is basically another MLM Pyramid scheme except the dollar figures are higher. It’s a whopping $250 to join which reminds me of the ReGenesis 2×2 scam that recently went down.
For the $250 you get a “travel voucher” which in reality I am sure you could obtain elsewhere for much less, as these things are common giveaways by many companies. Then it’s the same ol same ol try to get “2 others” to join you and do the same. Once you do that successfully you train those 2 how to replicate the process and voila you make $10,000 or some other nice lump sum of money after reaching a certain point.
I’ve seen it all before, this is the same scheme with a different packaging. Some things to be worried about are the fact that their address appears to be fake. Some people have phoned the building in London that they claim to be located in and they aren’t there.
Further, their banking apparently takes place in Cyprus, but if they are located in the UK why go to the trouble of using a bank in Cyprus ? More warning signs.
Now this isn’t to say you won’t make money with this. If you join and in turn get others to join you will very likely make money, the same way that many people made money with ReGenesis 2×2. All scams pay money in the beginning, it’s just that eventually they close up shop and run with the left over money (and then likely do it all over again). I can’t say that this is what TVI Express is doing by any means, but one cannot rule it out either.
Perhaps you have read some success stories of others who have made $10,000 or some other great sum of money. I am sure it’s absolutely true, there’s ALWAYS someone, or a group of people, who are making good money in any scheme. However for each person who is making money there are at least 2 or possibly 1000s who are losing money. It’s impossible to have someone making money without 2 or more people losing money. It’s just simple mathematics. You never get to hear the stories of the people who lose money, just the wonderful success stories of those who make money.
However, here is something to consider before joining. First of all how easy/hard do you think it will be to get people to part with $250 to join this ? Most people are already skeptical and $250 is by no means pocket change. Compare that to the simple $3 program I recommend. The idea behind TVI Express is get 2 people to join and train them to do the same and so on so the 2x2x2 etc replicates. You eventually get a $10,000 payout for accomplishing this but I’m not quite sure when that occurs.
How about my simple $3 program ? If you were to recruit 3 people (ie get 3 people to part with $3 ) within one month and then teach those 3 to do the same within one month thereby retiring after 2 months., do you know how much money you will earn in your 11th month if everyone accomplishes the same ? Your 11th month will get you over $17,000! So, what do you think will be easier ? TVI Express at $250 joining fee or Work for $3 at a $3 joining fee ?
With Work for $3 I was able to recruit about 60 people within my first 2 months, an average of 1 per day. However that has slowed down since and many of those who have joined me have not been able to be as successful as me. There are about 10-20 people who have recruited 3 or more people but the majority haven’t recruited anyone. This is possibly due to it being a forced matrix so it attracts a lot of people who don’t want to do anything. Nevertheless it is working and I am making money at it every month on autopilot now.
So, if you are thinking of joining TVI Express I would recommend you first join Work for $3 and try to be successful at that first. It has the potential to make millions just like TVI does, but it’s only $3, not $250. If you can’t be successful with Work for $3 then you have no chance whatsoever at being successful with TVI Express and I have just saved you $247! (feel free to donate some of that money to me if you like :-) )
If you have any comments about TVI Express feel free to leave them below.
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Excerpt from above… “I can’t say that this is what TVI Express is doing by any means, but one cannot rule it out either.”
Why do you clever people who can figure these schemes out to the last mathematical detail “beat about the bush” as in the excerpt above.
TVI Express, as you have competently articulated, but apparently afraid to conclude, is in fact an obvious, illegal fraudulent pyramid scheme.
An attempt was made by one of these pyramid crooks to sue me for $10,000,000. I simply called him an international, whit-collar money-laundering crook, liar, gangster and thief and his so-called Network Marketing “business” an abhorrent illegal pyramid scheme. And an employee clandestently copied a list of some 18,000 names from his computer and e-mailed them to me.
His 24 lawyer law firm, supposedly one of the “premium” in the “MLM” racket, thought this would be a “cake-walk.” After all they were only up against an undefended, grade ten educated opponent with 10 months barber school.
Well they got their “legal butts kicked.”
At paragraph [35] of his 18 page decision the judge wrote…. “In the absence of evidence that even begins to rebut the assertions made by Thornton…”
Read it all in our link below; the myriad other frauds and watch my false arrest by RCMP caught on video; charges subsequently dropped as a result of the video.
Canadian police from the RCMP on down, politicians, government personnel, CRA (Income Tax Department) abhorrently school teachers and church ministers and even members of the Canadian main-line media perpetrate these pyramid frauds in Canada. That’s the truth…. that the reality and that’s the reason these frauds are spreading exponentially throughout the world defrauding unwitting victims where you live.
David Thornton
President – CrimeBustersNow
Exposing Government & Police Corruption
One Fraud at a Time
Hello David
The reason I don’t conclude TVI Express to be a scam is because they aren’t lying about anything they offer. I guess it depends on what your definition of a scam is. For me it’s outright lying about a product or service. What we have with all these internet pyramid and ponzi schemes are people who have found loopholes and ways around the law.
It’s the common people who are naive and don’t really understand what they are getting themselves into that are taken advantage of. If someone sells you a toothpick for $100 and you are foolish enough to buy it can we really call it a “scam” ? Maybe, but legally we can’t unless he outright lied about it somehow.
So I would say that morally speaking all these online schemes are indeed scams, yes, but in the eyes of the law they aren’t, and that is why I don’t personally label anything a scam unless it is in the eyes of the law otherwise I could probably be sued for slander or something.
I don’t think TVI is illegal otherwise it would have been shut down by now. As long as they give you something for your payment then they are fine, even if it isn’t worth the initial payment. Maybe the law will change in the future to prevent the millions of online schemes out there, but until then we will have all these “schemes” that aren’t scams legally speaking, but we all know that they are morally.
I really enjoyed the CBC program http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2009/easy_money/main.html. I encourage all to watch it. How did this turn out in the end ? Is this guy still operating ?
From CrimeBusterNow
Hi Admin
You actually published my stuff!!! – Many won’t, especially the main-line media blogs. Good thing for freedom of expression and informing the world that there exists blogs like yours and ours.
Now, in Canada there are no “loopholes” in the pyramid law, Section 206 (1)(e) Canadian Criminal Code.
The crooks, corrupt police, prosecutors, lawyers & politicians just “claim” there are and it became another “urban Legend” spread by millions of crooks, the mislead and “brain-washed.”
Did you read the precedent judgment I received from the Ontario Superior Court?
Two important comments of the judge…. at
[35] In the absence of evidence that even begins to rebut the assertions made by, Thornton……
And the seriousness of these fraudulent schemes expressed by Justice Quigley in these paragraphs…
[11] ….He acknowledges as well that he has been a rather large “thorn in their side” as one of the principal sources of public statements aimed at warning members of the public against the “participatory business” schemes offered by TTl and BIM to Canadians. Thornton freely acknowledges that he campaigns publicly against those who would cause economic and emotional damage to ordinary Canadians by enticing them into pyramidic sales schemes.
[24] …Thornton may have caused irreparable harm to the TTl and BIM businesses. Indeed it is admitted by the respondent that that is exactly the result his actions were intended to have…. Thornton himself effectively acknowledges that he hopes he has caused them irreparable harm. There is no doubt that his intent was to provide warnings to the public regardless of the harm it might cause to the plaintiffs, or indeed to others who might be engaged in similar schemes.
In this paragraph, again “tying” these “cookie-cutter” schemes to the original (without product) “Women Empowering Women” pyramid “gifting” scheme as well as to the Canadian Criminal Code, Justice Quigley wrote…
[13] In his argument, Thornton explained to the court how the TTl and BIM participatory businesses adopt the exact model and mechanisms of other pyramidic sales schemes that have been investigated and shut down by police authorities. He compared a schematic diagram of the operative marketing scheme used by TTl and BlM to other pyramidic sales schemes that have been shut down. To all appearances, the schemes were substantially the same. Finally, Thornton drew the court’s attention to s. 206(1)(e) of the Criminal Code, which states as follows: [Omitted for brevity]….
The Judge then summed it up in the last paragraph….
[41] By corollary, it will be open to the plaintiffs to bring another injunction application before trial, but only in the event that they are prepared to adduce probative evidence at such time that would call into doubt the prima facie case of ILLEGALITY that the respondent Thornton has successfully made out.
The link to the decision…
http://205.236.116.206/WMMW_Site/WebDemos/dt1/dt1_court_order_tti_bim_vs_thornton.pdf
It’s simple: Nigeria has the 419 fraud named after their section of the Criminal Code….. Canada has the “206″ fraud.
And here is the CRA (Canadian Income Tax Department) running pyramid fraud on the job as we maintained since we first picketed their offices in 2004.
EXCERPT: “Internal reports show an average of 85 employees a year are disciplined for wasting their work days surfing the web, setting up sports pools, sending chain letters, promoting “illegal substances” sharing offensive cartoons and RUNNING PYRAMID SCHEMES.
http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/tax-agency-workers-surf-web-too-much-report/article1621101/actions.jsp?service=mobile
Dave CBNow
International Fraud Investigation
Exposing Police & Political Corruption
One Fraud at a Time
http://www.crimebustersnow.com
From CrimeBustersNow
Hi again Admin
To answer your questions: His fraudulent scheme has collapsed as all pyramid schemes do. He has been sentenced to three years in prison, but not for perpetrating his pyramid fraud but for Criminal Negligence Causing Death.
The prosecuting attorney withheld that precedent setting judgment I received from the court when the crook’s lawyer argued he should be simply given probation because he keeps thousands of people employed through his “business.”
However, during an adjournment, the irate judge found the decision on her own and berated both he and his lawyer, sentencing him to three years in prison. It was quite a scene, but again the main-line media published nothing about it as far as I know, and I contacted several of them.
That precedent setting decision wasn’t even mentioned as a sentencing factor. That’s why we need the Internet, notwithstanding the crooks are using it for scams. We have a duty to use the Internet to expose these frauds that the main-line media are not only suppressing, but many of whom are running “206 fraud” now on television. Check it out!
http://www.crimebustersnow.org/html/global_and_play_tv.html
Now in the following link, you will clearly see manifest, the “Handwriting on the Wall” and I can assure you we are speeding headlong down the “same road” as the country of Albania in the latter part of the ‘90s when businesses, banks, common crooks, organized crime, government officials, police officers, even the media and 2/3 of the country became ensnarled in pyramid schemes.
Just read the first six paragraphs of this report from the IMF (International Monetary Fund): That’s what we are in today: That was the “Handwriting on the Wall” from the 90s in the IMF report. But who’s listening: certainly not our police authorities and our government.
Remember the Madoff “whistleblower” and the book he wrote entitled….. “No one would listen.”
That IMF report was ostensibly written to prevent what is happening today. Robert FitzPatrick, president of our senior affiliate non-profit organization, Pyramid Scheme Alert, is an associate of the author of this IMF report, Christopher Jarvis. This is extremely informative and a excellent read.
Despite these warnings to the world, in 1998 top Canadian government officials perpetrated the abhorrent and infamous “gifting scheme” “Women Empowering Women,” 1-2-4-8 pyramid fraud which spread worldwide and was dubbed “the fraud of the decade” and still being perpetrated today, from government offices, police forces across the country and reprehensibly perpetrated by teachers, school board officials and abhorrently church ministers, this fraud “masked” with all manner of so-called goods and services.
That’s the truth….. That’s reality. As I say, all we’re getting from our Canadian government is harassment, threats, assaults, false arrests, etc, (as you witnessed from that CBC partial and self-censored “investigative report“) …. and of course perception;” ….that, and B.S…. And that too is the truth……. That too is reality.
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2000/03/jarvis.htm
cont….
P.S. No offense, “Admin” but I do feel compelled to correct you with what I see is a dangerous perception as you wrote: “I don’t think TVI is illegal otherwise it would have been shut down by now.”……..
Too soon you forget Enron and more recently Madoff …….and countless others??? These frauds are “hidden in plain view”…. One Canadian Prosecutor was quoted as stating… “I am too busy with home invasions and murder to worry about “white-collar” crime.
McLean’s Magazine wrote …..
THE MOUNTIES GIVE UP
“The RCMP is walking away from serious investigations, and failing to snag fraudsters… and white collar criminals.”
That’s why I take umbrage with your statement: …..“I don’t think TVI is illegal otherwise it would have been shut down by now.”…..That is one of the statements vastly used by the fraud artists.
But an RCMP officer himself made this statement to Global TV. But the RCMP still did nothing about the Treasure Traders International fraud, other than his fellow officers became perpetrators of it, and when it collapsed simply started the Business in Motion fraud, both of which the Ontario Superior Court ruled prime facie, ILLEGAL.
Authorities simply refuse to enforce the written law because so many in government offices and police departments and their families are making “a killing”… hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars as the “top dogs” in these pyramid frauds.
After all with the credibility of an RCMP officer, government official, school board official, teacher, church minister, lawyer and the like, who do you think will get the “easy signups???”
Global T.V.
Gemstone Investment Opportunity Collapses
Treasure Traders International, too good to be true!
EXCERPT… Calgary RCMP, Staff Sergeant Bill Ralstin says it’s easy to spot a pyramid.
He says if you make more money from recruiting other people to join than from the sale of a product then it’s a pyramid.
“If their emphasis seems to be totally on recruiting and how big and wonderful this program is going to become through recruiting and you’re going to be rewarded by your recruiting then it’s a pyramid”, says the Commercial Crime detective.
He says buying a product to get into the scheme doesn’t make it legal either.
He says you’re just buying the right to recruit people into the program….
http://www.canada.com/globaltv/calgary/consumerbeat/story.html?id=962b2b5e-5881-4d0a-a5d7-d845b9dbacb4
Enough for this morning’s warnings to the citizens of my country and world-wide: Got to head to bed!!!
Dave CBNow
International Fraud Investigation
Exposing Police & Political Corruption
One Fraud at a Time
http://www.crimebustersnow.com
You make a valid point. Something can’t be viewed as legal simply because it hasn’t been shut down yet. It would be like saying a crime isn’t a crime until you have been caught and punished.